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27 Thermidor CCXI (August 14, 2003)

(System Stuff) Three Times Me Made A Yardstick

I really hope no one's using IE to access this site for the next little while.
I think I may have solved my 'content div spans off the screen in IE' problem, but it's now causing some new problems.

No one else should notice any difference.

Edit: It seems to be working fine in IE 6.0 now. Only difference is that the spacing between elements is a little narrower than in Mozilla.
Still, as someone else said, IE users really should get a real browser.

Yes, that last one was a joke.

Edit II: The problem where I wasn't having a small gap at the bottom of this page (which affected all browsers) should also be fixed. Let me know if anything starts going all wonky.

Posted by g026r at 13:32
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Maybe the first problem of IE users is that they need to get a real OS.

Posted by peter at 27 Thermidor CCXI 14:18 (2003/08/14)

Even this would be an improvement.

Actually, as much as I loved BeOS, it probably wouldn't be an improvement. NetPositive was probably one of the worst browsers ever packaged with an OS and Mozilla and Opera are both outdated and slow on that platform.

Besides, everyone knows this is a better OS than Gentoo. :)

(Seems that Microsoft has taken down the 'Internet Explorer for UNIX' webpage. This is all that's left. Pity, I always got a chuckle out of it. Never did see anyone using it though.)

Siteicon Posted by g026r at 27 Thermidor CCXI 14:40 (2003/08/14)

Wow.  IE for UNIX.  What a collosal waste of time.

I don't hate MS as much as some do.  I always figured that they were working on IE 7.0, which would have tabbed browsing, mouse gestures/radial context, pop-up blocking, integrated searhing, download manager, and possibly some new features, which would bring their browser out of the stone age.  But I heard recently that IE 6 is considered the final release, and no work is being done to update it.  This is probably untrue, but it did make me lose all respect for the company.

IE was an acceptable browser about... 3 years ago.

Posted by peter at 28 Thermidor CCXI 12:22 (2003/08/15)

And Debian would be good... if you like using out of date versions of the software.  I get impatient when a gentoo ebuild takes a couple days to come out.  I couldn't imagine waiting weeks or months for debian to integrate it.

Posted by peter at 28 Thermidor CCXI 12:23 (2003/08/15)

Actually, I'd never consider using Debian for a desktop OS, as you said, way too out of date for most packages. (It took them at least a year to get KDE 3 into unstable!)
But for a server I really enjoy it, I just leave it on the testing distribution (not as likely to be borked as unstable, but more up to date than stable) and update once a week or so.

As for IE, I think what you may have heard was this.
Personally I can't see them not bringing in tabbed browsing and other features commonly found in other browsers eventually. Considering the number of modifications to IE available that give it tabs it a) can't be too hard a job and b) is obviously something people want.

Siteicon Posted by g026r at 28 Thermidor CCXI 13:47 (2003/08/15)

Addendum: I don't think IE for UNIX ever got past version 5.something. It only ran on Solaris & HP-UX and was a rather large download. (I seem to recall ~20MB or so) From what I've heard it was supposedly rather slow as it had a win32 abstraction layer so that they didn't have to redo the GUI.

I actually tried to download it once just to see what it was like, but it was too big for my account on UNB's Solaris machine (and my experience with Solaris x86 is something I prefer not to talk about. Actually, I don't know if it could even run on Solaris x86. Granted, I do have a Sparc, but it's never run Solaris and never will if I can help it.)

(Side note: I just spotted the archive.org copy of the page, apparently it also included Outlook Express and was available as version 4.01 or 5.0 SP1. They claimed it would run on a SparcStation 2, but then again they also claim that Windows 2003 Server will run on a Pentium 133)

Siteicon Posted by g026r at 28 Thermidor CCXI 15:41 (2003/08/15)
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